Speaker 0 00:00:00 And systems that we would not survive, but we are too brilliant to lay down and die. Right? And so I appreciate you all reflecting on our grandmother's gardens. The hustling, the hustling little patch of our grandmother's gardens, identifying what's beautiful and what we stand by proudly. But identifying also the things that we're ready to pull out that we're ready to change in exchange. Cuz they should have never been in our gardens to begin with. So, wow. I love that. With that much love to you all. Much appreciation to everybody.
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Speaker 3 00:01:37 You can burn a whole thing down. I don't care if y'all uncomfortable, we can burn a whole thing down. Couldn't care about a another zone. You can burn a whole thing down. Y'all don't really care about a brother till we burn all thing down.
Speaker 6 00:01:58 Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:01:59 We about to go to work. Yeah, we about to let it burn. Extended quill. Yeah, I bet you will. Trying to skip a they've been lynching nothing and till and that's really freaking generous cuz honestly they have been killing us since we were property. No stopping me from saying how it is. Listen, aint the whizz, ain't no easing down the road where we live that the bizz. We can't go out for a jog or a swim or a dog fall asleep in the car, fall asleep where we live. So we about to let it burn just like gusher. Say baby trying but let do not care what gusher say. Put in back screens up, make a few bucks. My life is in marketing. Who you think you trying to play Mom? I like it better when like, nerdy was all fun and stuff. This is really angry.
Speaker 3 00:02:40 Like don't you think you said enough? Huh? Well that's freaking tough cuz I'm being loud and the people are not playing with you now. Yeah, you can burn a whole thing down. Yes. Yeah. I don't care if you are uncomfortable. We can burn a whole thing down. You can burn a whole thing down. Couldn't care about another zone. You can burn a whole thing down down. Y'all don't really care about a brother until we burn our whole thing down. Burn it down, down. Yeah. We about to go to work. Yeah, we about to let it
Speaker 7 00:03:11 Burn. No, come on The Youngs what I'm focused on. I'm so old then go then. I ain't know you was talking about Pokemon huh? But I'm more like me and nerdy next to a burndown system with a candle of gas and a handful of matches and know we ain't miss some famous Now my mission like be so watching all the leaders leading banking Nona Minions. But we taught you enough to take us and we give into survivors city liars making black people compliant. Coon Rapids. Who are you asking? I'm proof. Survive the boomba trick bro. Ethics got me laughing at your message. And in Black Lives Matter, you would not get so defensive. We got cops and deans and robberies and gas light us. We are not the same. We on the scene we pass typing cuz y'all don't care about us and we ain't come to ask. We just mind up business sitting and people be so stuck and mad. Sopa the gun and mask and pass the athe. Nu Y'all can really kill us for anything. Y'all just bend the laws the same performance art, the same performative saving the racist head of Norm. It is. You can burn, burn the the whole thing
Speaker 3 00:04:11 Down. Yeah. Get the burn all. I don't care if y'all uncomfortable, we can burn whole thing down. You can burn it, burn it, burn it down. Couldn't care about it. You can burn a down. Y'all don't really care about brother until we burn down. Yeah, we, yeah. Let
Speaker 8 00:04:58 Views on the
Speaker 9 00:04:59 Ground. Views from the damn ground views from the ground views from the damn ground views from the ground views from the damn ground. And
Speaker 8 00:05:06 That's on that, on that, on that. All right. Welcome back, y'all. This is y'all favorite agender host dj. I use day them pronouns.
Speaker 9 00:05:16 My name is Brandon. I use he him pronouns.
Speaker 8 00:05:19 All right. And we're gonna jump directly into it. Um, the Words for Freedom
Speaker 9 00:05:25 Segment. So yeah, welcome to Words of Freedom. A segment here on views from the ground.
Speaker 8 00:05:29 Views from the damn
Speaker 9 00:05:30 Ground where we give local poets a chance to free their minds, free their hearts, and liberate their souls with their words of freedom. Again. This week we have my boy Farrah Habad, uh, who is a poet and organizer based in Minneapolis by way of Oakland. They performing for over a decade. Um, he's really, truly about community and his art resounds in that fact and the way that he brings people together. And he's always about giving other people opportunities and just working with people. So we're gonna hear a couple of his poems today. Um, the first one that we will listen to is titled This Mosque is a burning house
Speaker 10 00:06:12 In the creation of this new land. A land where the people sought to make a more perfect union. A union perfected through genocide of indigenous people grew weary of establishing justice through the tranquil ceremony of burning hysteric women at the stake. And soon the insatiable beast of white supremacy felt a familiar growl in its belly and heard the call hak hasten to salvation. And the beasts swam across the atlantic and feasted on black bodies. And some the beast brought back. It stacked the cargo shoulder to shoulder the rose straight and tight, no space between them lest that space be filled by the devil. This is the story of the first Muslims in America. When the slave ships first arrived on the shores of Virginia in 1619, SOTU did Islam. Long before H two B Visas refugee status or the Silicon Valley, the message of Islam reached the shores of the United States in bondage.
Speaker 10 00:07:17 Long before Uyghur Muslims in China were forced fed during Ramada, enslaved Africans were stripped of their faith alongside their humanity. And still today we fight for this sense of personhood. We take up space even when, and especially when we are denied it. You know, like on mosque boards or Friday pulpits. See, at times this house of worship feels like an integrated afterthought, like a burning house, like a non-com communal community. Here on the intersection of black and Muslim, I find rock and hard place rock how we show up and show out against the persecution of Palestine and cash. M and a pressed Muslim folks across the globe hard place. How the board members call the boys in blue on black boys playing in the parking lot while their parents offer night prayers. How white supremacy can greet you with CELs can offer you dates and water when it's time to break your fast. You know what's funny? When Malcolm X traveled to Arabia, he wrote a letter back to his folks in Harlem. It began, never have I witnessed such sincere hospitality and overwhelming spirit of true brotherhood. And I wonder if he'd feel the same way today
Speaker 9 00:08:45 In this next piece is titled 2:00 AM in Marshall, Texas.
Speaker 10 00:08:55 If this was my last night on this planet, Lord, I ask that you make it a blessed one. I ask that you take all the stressed ones, you put their sins in a basket. You take that child and you put that child on the Nile, and you give that child the opportunity to be the rose, the anomaly from brick, the darker brother who sat in the kitchen and ate well and grew strong. Give me that opportunity, Lord, just plant me deep inside your soil. You know, the seed won't wither. You don't, no box can't hold them. I mean, that's what my mommy said. You know, mama's always right. You know when timing ain't, and you know when rhymes ain't tight. But she let me loose on a lost world unsuspecting with her love in my chest. And her love's never ending. But now I know it real vividly.
Speaker 10 00:09:46 See, I know it's the truth that a good love was slow and that that good love was you little lady. You filled me, but you filled me like a Hindenburg blimp. You know, like a sizzler steak, like some gas station shrimp. I'm so much better without you <laugh>. It ain't no shame cause it's true. Seattle lost my way, was never found with you. But then the sun peeked through and shined a light on my spirit. I knew that I was so good and my heart and new healing. See, my mother patched me up. She turned my light switched on. And when my light switched on, I took my place on the pulpit. I put my patience in place and I trust the keeper of judgment. And I've been gone for so long with golden gates in my rear view. I put the future in headlights and turn the brights on the mildew and grasp the littlest moments, but tuck 'em somewhere real safe. I look to them when it's coldest butt. I find my warmth in this space. See, it is warm in this space. So come on, warm up this space.
Speaker 9 00:10:53 So yeah, big shout out to my boy, uh, Farrah Habad. Um, we've heard his poetry all month. Um, big thank you for him to getting it to me, uh, so that I can share it with you guys. Um, and again, next week we will have him here in the studio for an in-person interview. Uh, we'll talk about how he kind of got started, what his, uh, creative process is, things like that. And we'll just chop it up with my boy. So make sure you are staying in tune next week, um, if you are able. And, uh, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 8 00:11:23 Yeah, I'm so excited for that interview. Um, uh, thank you for bringing them on. It's such a amazing poet. Absolutely. One of my, um, favorites, um, local poets. So, um, with that being said, we're gonna move straight to the nerdy spot. So take it away. Nerdy.
Speaker 3 00:11:43 Yo, everybody out there in the radio world, it's your boy nerdy. And I'm bringing that beans, greens, potatoes, tomatoes, and of course the artist spotlight. Now it's the season of thankfulness. And I for one, am thankful we have such an amazing artist like Minneapolis Drew here in our community, really tearing it down. Just put down a huge awesome concert at the underground Music cafe Minneapolis. Drew is really coming up here and y'all don't wanna miss it. And speaking of thankfulness, we hear it. Views from the ground are so thankful because we got another brand new never before Heard track by Minneapolis Drew featuring DJ Hayes. It's called Simply Grind. Let's get to it.
Speaker 12 00:12:38 Willy,
Speaker 13 00:12:43 Who Willy cares you working towards long as you working for it? Search door. Just trying to open door.
Speaker 13 00:12:54 I working hard up and working low key. Yep. Dodges and fake love passes all that I need. See, I had to take a minute so I could water my seeds. You know, take a step back so I can mentally breathe. Just trying to set in examples so y'all could follow my lead. Like I've been blocking for the running back. Keep running up seams and I'm just loving my teams. Drew for running up streams. It all started with it gold. Now I'm living my dream. Back in 2018, there was no hope around me. I was as low as could be. Nobody was noticing me. Determination was all that I needed. See, I got ready to conceited better. You better believe it. Set it and bound to achieve. I've been making the streete. I should keep it a secret try, but I keep up the teasing. Y'all wasn't even believe it. Y'all wouldn't even believe. It cares what you working towards as long as you working for it. What you searching for? My p doors? Just trying to open door.
Speaker 13 00:13:52 Listen. Lost my train. Thought when covid hit, felt the walls was closing in. I'm about to suffocate and won't nobody notice it for all the doors that's closing me, I found another opening. I'm running through it closely and everybody close to me get it. Tasted a lime life. And its loading my mind right for the time that I waited, pacing and paid off in hindsight dividends that my mind's like dividends that my dad get came along with from bad kisses. You better. The average losing away from the baggage. Put my family in the position they want it. Go grab it. Gra is 95 when my parents established the king of conscious poet. That's mixed with a savage grind. Until I can get a business, I can man this in time. It'll never waste. So figure what your plan is. Impression. Make it tough. I just hope you can stand it. And if you second guess opportunities vanish. VanNess cares, cares what you working towards as long as you working. Find what you searching for. I learned how open doors just trying to open door cares you long as you work in sports, as long as you work, find what you search it for. I learned how open doors just trying to open.
Speaker 5 00:15:26 This is the Minnesota dose on K ffa. I the manufacturer of one of the new covid 19 bivalent boosters is claiming a fourfold improvement in their shots, resulting volume of neutralizing antibodies. Pfizer recently updated their clinical research stating that their new booster elicits a quote, substantially higher immune response in adults compared to the original Covid 19 vaccine. Another source, a study conducted by researchers at Columbia and Michigan universities shows that the new boosters are not any better than the original monovalent vaccine at increasing antibodies that fights sub variants. That study looked at the effects of both Pfizer and Moderna boosters and has not yet been peer reviewed. Whether they're better or not, the Bivalent boosters are the only boosters available. And because of waning immunity after an original vaccine series, we know that both old and new boosters have been effective in reducing likelihood of hospitalizations or death from Covid. That's all for now for the Minnesota dose on K F A I. I'm Ryan dos.
Speaker 8 00:16:41 All right, well, welcome back to Views from the ground. Views from the damn ground. So I just want to give a shout out to Nerdy. Um, thank you for bringing, um, such amazing artists on the show. So really appreciate it there. Um, with that being said, um, today, um, we are here with, um, a member of Na Lives Matter and they brought in a friend. So go ahead, um, introduce yourself.
Speaker 14 00:17:11 Um, my name is Tony Black Elk. Um, I'm an organizer for Native Lives Matter. Been doing that for quite a few years now. Um, me and my husband do like a lot of boots on the groundwork with impacted families from like all over the country. Native families who've been, uh, impacted by police violence, police brutality. Um, we just kinda reach out to them, try to let them know that they're not alone in this fight. We're forgotten about, like totally in this fight and it's irritating, aggravating lonesome. But yeah, that's kind of what we do. Um, I'm Dakota. I live here in Minneapolis. My mom, I'm a mom of 10. Yeah. So activist and mom. Uh, my name is Alison Renville. I am, uh, can you hear me on now? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>? Yeah. My name is Alison Renville. I am a Cisan in Hun Lakota. I currently live in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Speaker 14 00:18:29 And then I am assisted in along with my mosk here from the same reservation in the Lake Traverse Reservation in Northeast South Dakota. I am a political organizer around, in and around the Democratic Party, but also looking at other options as far as organizing goes because the, uh, the third option for voting, which is like independence and non-party affiliates are actually, um, growing to be the second majority in South Dakota. So we're currently under this like Republican everything coming down on us where, you know, white supremacy is really thick in South Dakota. So, um, I'm currently working with Tony and Native Lives Matter around the case of, uh, Jacob James, who was shot by, uh, Sioux Falls Police Department about three months ago now.
Speaker 8 00:19:18 Yep. Just keep talking to the mic.
Speaker 14 00:19:19 Okay. Oh, did I keep coming back? Okay. And then also, um, I have a political action committee where, um, I've recruited in encouraged candidates to run in state legislation. And then also we've, um, kind of really set precedent on what we're capable of doing in exercising sovereignty within South Dakota and their regulations and their laws and stuff. So, um, my political action committee is actually the only Native American political Action committee to be registered on the reservation. So because of the sovereignty, the state doesn't have jurisdiction over my political action committee. It's, it's just like this whole thing that we've been able to accomplish. Um, but, you know, we're really working hard on trying to coalition build here in the Dakotas because of, uh, all of the stuff going on, really. There's, there's so many different issues that affect us.
Speaker 8 00:20:09 So what got you into this work, into this line of work, both
Speaker 9 00:20:13 Of you? What, what got you to the point where you felt like you needed to actually stand up and do something? Not just talk about it, but like, act
Speaker 14 00:20:20 About it? So, um, my parents were active in the American Indian movement, um, back in the seventies, in the eighties. Um, we were just born and raised to stand up for ourselves and to, you know, use our voice. Um, like Allison said, there's a lot of racism that goes on over in South Dakota, um, including on reservations. You know, we have a lot of non-natives that come to our reservations and do a lot of horrible, horrible things. And then they're not held accountable. They can go home and then they can come back and do whatever they please, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So that's kind of like where we grew up. Um, I wouldn't say like, it was like, uh, very noticeable for us growing up. You know, we were kind of like used to it. We were kind of used to it. And we got called all kinds of names, you know.
Speaker 14 00:21:20 Um, my mom, along with a few of my uncles who are active in the American Indian movement, um, marched on a school who had a racist, uh, superintendent back in the nineties, and, uh, actually got him removed. And, you know, they pulled us all outta that white school and put us in native school. And that was a really, really big transition, you know, cuz we grew up like in a area of like half native, half white. So that was kind of, that was kind of hard too. But, um, I don't know. I've been doing this, I don't wanna say like, since birth, but like, I've been like being pretty active since I wanna say like 2008, 2009. Gotcha. Yeah. And you know, it's just the stuff that we go through mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that's what needs to be uplifted. Like, everything, everything. There's multiple, multiple things that our people go through.
Speaker 9 00:22:23 Alison, what about you? How would you say you got into doing this type of work?
Speaker 14 00:22:28 Um, well, my great-great-grandfather is actually, uh, his name is Gabriel Renville. He was the, um, appointed the government appointed chief that actually, um, pretty much saved our people from being executed in, um, you know, just completely abolished here in Minnesota. And that was in, you know, in the, um, 1860s and stuff during, during and after the Dakota War. So we were always brought up to believe that, you know, our, our ancestors did the right thing with whatever they had mm-hmm. <affirmative> because we survived, you know, it's been like a hundred and 158 years or something now or whatever. And it's just been, um, something that we're like conditioned to believe that we have the ability to speak up. And, you know, if we have to, my last name is Renville. There's Renville, Minnesota, Renville, North Dakota. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. There's just like Renville County, county. You know, there's like d different things that end up, um, not necessarily like legitimizing us, but reminding us, you know, that there are people who died for us to be here mm-hmm.
Speaker 14 00:23:31 <affirmative> constantly. Um, so growing up, you know, my mother was always in involved in politics and stuff, and so when I was like 18, 19 years old, um, it was my first training into the D C C, which was the, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. And, um, I really just got thrown into everything and kind of opened the door for me into the state party where I've organized for every major Democrat in South Dakota, but also in, um, I organized for, um, Obama for America when they came in. And that really was one of my first experiences to see like, you really gotta know a guy who knows a guy. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, right? And just so happens there's a position in our society as Dakota people that we don't value enough. And, um, the Dakota Order is <unk> and it's like the person who knows everybody <laugh>, like the town crier, the one who's like, creates the story and, you know, keeps everyone on the same page. And, um, Tony and I got close during Standing Rock. So that was really, um, the one thing that I think that I took home with that was the value for that role. And that's really how I've kind of navigated the last six, seven years or so of my life.
Speaker 9 00:24:38 Gotcha. Um, so we've talked a little bit, little bit about what you've done organizing wise, um, just for your people in Tony, you said you want to basically just tell your stories, right? Like, there are things that happen to native people that aren't spoken about publicly or widely mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and I think one of those things that me and DJ have learned through our solidarity movements is police brutality is not just a black issue. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's not just a black and brown issue, it's black, brown, native and native. More so than quite, than a lot of people realize. Yeah. Um, more so than it's often talked about. So can you talk a little bit about, um, police brutality against, uh, native folks and how you guys organize with NLM for
Speaker 14 00:25:25 That? Yeah. Um, so I think it was like in 2017, the CDC came out with their, uh, numbers of who's killed most by the police. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and it was natives. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, I think that's like a lot of disagreement between like, uh, non-natives mm-hmm. <affirmative> and us. Um, but you just don't hear about it, you know? Um, like I said, I, and I've been saying we're forgotten mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we're really forgotten. Like people think that we're like a story or something magical, you know? Um, but in the fight against the police brutality, like it's been going on since the beginning of time mm-hmm. <affirmative> since colonization, um, like sitting bull was killed by the police. Crazy horse was killed by, you know, police mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And till this day, there's still police brutality on Standing Rock reservation. Um, and it's rampant. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> also account, uh, non accountability is rampant.
Speaker 14 00:26:42 Mm-hmm. <affirmative> over, um, in the three states that we've worked in. North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, rampant mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, even in Wisconsin, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative> like I was talking about, you know, we grew up like assimilated, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, mostly white towns. Um, and, and around the reservation, same thing over there, no accountability whatsoever. These cops are getting medals after they, you know, brutalize and murder our people mm-hmm. <affirmative> while their kids get to be, uh, warriors and Yeah. Chiefs and stuff in your mascot in high school. Yes. You know, and like, what we've seen post George Floyd here in the city is like a lot of, uh, racism has become more, uh, visible mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And there's a lot of racists who are, uh, they don't, uh, they don't care, you know, they don't care if they go to jail if they're held accountable, you know?
Speaker 14 00:27:55 So that makes them more bold in their action. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like we've in the movement, you know, had multiple interactions with people in the past almost three years mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And it's gotten to the point where like, enough is enough. Like, how are you as a colonizer on Dakota land gonna be so angry and upset about original stuff mm-hmm. <affirmative> before you even got here. How are you so angry about stuff you walked in on? You know, there's a lot of discussion, especially around this time every year, non-natives will say things like, uh, we are, we are conquered. I don't feel conquered, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, a lot of non-natives, you know, get mad at our name changes here in Minneapolis. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, like, uh, there's, they still wanna hang onto that Lake Calhoun mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative> because they can't pronounce the word, you know, <laugh> just mm-hmm.
Speaker 14 00:29:05 <affirmative>. It's awful. It's awful. But like, one of the reasons why I moved here is because my spirit was calling me here. Like, this is our original home. Um, and like till this day, police brutality is really overlooked in the native community. Cops are killing people on reservations and then they get to transfer out mm-hmm. <affirmative> and go do it somewhere else. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, cops can, you know, take our, take our kids, take our women, you know, brutalize and beat our men. We have something that's called, uh, ancestral trauma. Generational trauma. Um, and it's hard. It's, all of our people feel it. All of our people feel it regardless, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, if you're just a little bit native or a whole bunch of native, you know, you're feeling it in some type of way. Hopefully you're feeling it today, you know, and tomorrow, like Thanksgiving is supposed to be a time of like fasting for our people, and we're supposed to be in prayer, you know? And some of us, you know, still kind of hang onto the erasure of our people, you know, because it's the thing we did, you know, with our, with our grandparents and our parents, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I, I feel like when it comes to police brutality and native people, we have to fight a little harder, you know? And non-natives, they will get the exposure a hundred percent.
Speaker 9 00:30:43 Mm-hmm.
Speaker 14 00:30:44 <affirmative>, like, there's, there's non-natives who have passed that people know about, and then some, like on the same day Yeah. Native on the same day, and nobody knows nothing about that person. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 9 00:30:57 <affirmative>. Yeah. Like, when we were out protesting, like every week or every weekend, you know, we would have a new protest because there's a new case that we found out about, or we saw a new video came out, and like you and Gabe will be like, and we also need to mention these three young men, they're all native, who are also killed this past week in various parts of Yes.
Speaker 14 00:31:16 Yes.
Speaker 9 00:31:16 And it's like you said, it is insane to hear about all these things that don't get mentioned. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, literally things as bad, if not worse, not to compare any of them mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but these people are being brutally murdered Yep. At the hands of the police. And like, no one
Speaker 14 00:31:32 Talks to me and sometimes on camera mm-hmm. <affirmative> on camera, unarmed, hands up, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, where's the outcry for my people? That's what I wanna know. Where's the outcry? We can say solidarity, but until you start showing up and start using your voice and your platforms and your power, like it's just, you know, hearsay mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But we're gonna continue to do, do the work. Always, always. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> gonna come out for our people. Like what I see in this fight is like, there is hardly, or almost nobody comes out for native police brutality. People except their own families. You know, we don't have a Ben Krump, where's our Ben Krump mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, and we, our, our people reach out to them and we get shut down, shut down. And it's almost mandatory that they need video footage of everything, like clear video footage.
Speaker 14 00:32:23 Um, like with, with Jacob's situation, you know, Jacob James was a 21 year old Lakota man who was killed by the police in Sioux Falls mm-hmm. <affirmative> and, um, you know, broad daylight. Uh, there's, there's a lot of conspiracies around how it happened, but the, uh, police report says that he had a gun. Well, the police report also says that it jammed on the third shot. So, you know, the, the, the, what I see after reading the police report and hearing the stories and like watching it and getting as enthralled as I am, what I see is a guy lean back with his hands up, you know, and it's on the internet, it's on TikTok. We have just like, it's, it's everywhere. Um, in South Dakota anyway, and in, in Sioux Falls specifically, because we've, um, we've had marches, we've had actions every Friday the family is like, you know, busting their butts to try to get justice and stuff.
Speaker 14 00:33:05 So, you know, he puts his hands up, he leans back, puts his hand up like he surrenders. He, he obviously surrendered. And, and the police report shows that he, you know, he was outnumbered. Um, and they continued to shoot at him 13 more times. And so the fatal shot was while he was like, with his back against the wall, or, well, it's in the back of a Burger King. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So it, like, the, the shots on the wall are all head shots, torso shots. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So they were shooting to kill this man that day. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> even after, you know, he put his hands up. And so, like, you know, the, the truth of the matter is that like, white folks don't give a shit about Indians. I'm just putting it out there, you know, and it, and it keeps happening because like, there's no change.
Speaker 14 00:33:45 And the only way change is gonna happen is if, like, you know, white folks step up mm-hmm. <affirmative> and fight each other. <laugh>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we're in modern day civil war right now. Right. It's not up to us to educate white people, you know, it's not educa. It's, it's not my responsibility to make sure that my white high school friend isn't racist. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> because he thinks he is. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> <laugh>. And they are, and they know. But, you know, it's, it's just not up to people like us to do that. I mean, we can open the door and we can welcome them in and everything when they figure it out, but there's, there's a lot of work for white folks to do right now mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, you know, it's, um, it's hard because then, you know, that we're all seeing the social media thing for Thanksgiving right now.
Speaker 14 00:34:23 All the memes and all the stuff are coming out now Wednesday, Adams is everywhere on our timelines, you know, because she's the epitome for how it feels. Yeah. Um, because America's not working. We've, we've all known that it's not working. And then, you know, the more that you look into Thanksgiving, we're on our way here. We're talking about, you know, what, what we need to bring up and to tell people is that, uh, Abraham Lincoln proclaimed, um, in 1963, the first Thanksgiving after a year had gone, um, gone by and he killed the Dakota 38 people. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you guys know, you know the story. Dakota 38, they mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, like I said, my great-great-grandfather was, um, a part of everything, of getting us out, um, because our people were exiled out of Minnesota. So this is our homelands and we're here. But, you know, he, um, he proclaimed it as a day of, uh, giving thanks or being thankful, but also, um, as a penance for those things.
Speaker 14 00:35:19 And so, you know, they knew what they were doing and they knew that it was wrong. But here we are, a hundred and almost 200 years later celebrating it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like, it just, you know, it's, it's a little redundant for, for us. And we, there, it's a struggle. Um, you know, when I was in kindergarten, we had a, like a, a little pageant tree <laugh>. The two classes were put against each other. One class was Indians and one class was pilgrims. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, my mom pulled me out of that class and put me in the other one for the day because hell, if I was gonna get to be a pilgrim mm-hmm. <affirmative> mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, so I mean, like, we're literally bred to believe that it was genocide of our people, you know? And so it's really cool to see, um, eastern tribes, um, you know, not just, um, not just the Cherokee people, but Wampanoags and everyone else are getting their land back.
Speaker 14 00:36:03 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, and, and that's really important for everyone, you know, because we have to navigate around laws and stuff now to, to get what's rightfully ours. And I think like a lot of people confuse the term land back as like, everybody non-native needs to go home. You know? That's what everybody thinks that that term means. And that's not what that means. Like, we need to have a seat where you don't see us. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we need to have a seat. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we need to make decisions on our own land for our own people. I think that's a, a big thing, you know, cuz like we can't stress it enough. We're home. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. We're home here. And you know, there's even, there's even a phrase that's come out of, um, a lot of the work some people do now, especially in Dakota territory, is to, um, you know, we, we're not, we're not homeless people when we, you know, we're houseless Mm mm-hmm.
Speaker 14 00:36:57 <affirmative> because we're home already. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So it doesn't matter, you know, there's always somewhere that we can go and like, there's a lot of our people who are, um, you know, they, they, they, they have a sense of community mm-hmm. <affirmative> living that lifestyle, you know, and, and we've all learned and we're condition reconditioning ourselves to understand that it's not always about addictions, it's about community. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, it's all, it's not always about trauma, but it is. Cuz everything's about trauma. Everything's about politics. Our, our, our full existence is political. I mean, you know, like we're merciless savages in America's eyes. Like we haven't even been, uh, citizens on our own land. Hundred years. 1924, not even a hundred years. Yeah. We've been citizens on our own land. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we're the only people that have to carry a pedigree card, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> our bloodline, you know, and even that in itself is colonization. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, that set that, that separates a lot of people back home, you know, and then we get into like feeling lost and we don't belong and things like that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So there's a lot that comes along with like the political mm-hmm. <affirmative>, the political, the political stuff, you know?
Speaker 9 00:38:08 And so one of the reasons why we wanted to bring you on today is obviously because of tomorrow. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, so I know you don't, I mean anyone, I can't speak for all black people. DJ can't speak for all black people mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But to yourself as a native person, what, when you hear Thanksgiving, what feelings, emotions, like thoughts of history, thoughts of your people, what does that try to maybe explain? Or if you can even, what, as a native person to you, when you hear Thanksgiving, how does that make you feel? What does it make you think?
Speaker 14 00:38:44 I automatically think of witches being burned at the stake because that's what they did back then in those days too. Because the outfits that are, that pilgrims wear, I automatically associate with all this hate mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So like, you know, I, I picture, you know, I, I don't, my automatic picture isn't like, oh, I'm gonna get to see my family. I'm gonna get to do all these things I'm gonna get to eat and stuff. Cuz we do do that. But, you know, in, I'm a, I'm very much a millennial, so the, you know, the scene on the Adams family when Wednesday Adams is like ready to burn the whole thing down like that automatically that picture comes in my head when I think of Thanksgiving because, you know, it's become so synonymous with how we feel and it's literally like all over our social medias and stuff on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 14 00:39:23 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, but you know, it, it, it's really hard. I'm 38 years old and, um, I've, uh, been working really hard to Decolonize. Right. So it's like getting away from Christmas, getting away from Thanksgiving, um, Easter, all of these, um, like Catholic holidays mostly for my community. Cause my, a lot of my family is Catholic. I, I was, um, I was brought up Pentecostal and Episcopalian and stuff mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but you know, like, um, those are because they were brought onto my reservation mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So then, you know, you get started and then you automatically start thinking about, um, pilgrims dressed up the way they were. So then I'll, I'll start thinking about this pageant that I was put in. So then I start thinking about kids mm-hmm. <affirmative>, then I start thinking about orphans. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, you know, my, our our home reservation had the Teca with the orphanage.
Speaker 14 00:40:11 And, uh, they potentially trafficked, um, thousands of kids off of her reservation through forced adoption and forced removal mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, um, just this last year, it's become a really big bulleted, uh, conversation for Native Americans because the Secretary of Interior is now a native woman who has made it one of her, um, you know, her big goals to, uh, investigate the boarding school situation in America. So there's over 3000 sites where there's potentially, um, dead children buried somewhere in America mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, within the Dakotas hundreds. And you know, so we, there's literally nobody in our com community who hasn't been affected by boarding schools. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then, you know, she, she mentioned that there are people who feel lonely out there because, you know, you have relocation in, um, you know, the sixties and seventies, they send Indians everywhere, every different city.
Speaker 14 00:41:02 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. That's why you have such a big community here with like American Indian movement mm-hmm. <affirmative> because that built community for them. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and then, you know, then it creates the people that, because cuz then you, you don't even bring up Blood Quantum yet. We haven't even talked about that because then, you know who's, who's an Indian mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, and that conversation always comes up around Thanksgiving too, because it's a really sensitive time because it is, when natives come together mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, and a lot of, uh, people who have been affected by, um, disenfranchisement from being an Indian mm-hmm. <affirmative> struggle with watching us all come together too. So that's just literally like overall our entire existence becomes like this political thing where, you know, it is all effects of colonization and, and the American ideal Great Tony, if you want, um, I think of like, uh, sad, um, more sad than, you know, it's hurt, it's hurtful, you know?
Speaker 14 00:41:59 Mm-hmm. <affirmative> to, yeah. We were all, you know, growed up to like, come together and have this meal and this one day, but like when you got older and you had your own voice and you know, you're being taught what's in a book and then you go home and then you live it. Yeah. Like, fuck Thanksgiving like serious. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like, yeah, it is a time to come together or whatever. But like, we're we're, we're every day, morning, morning, constant morning for our people. Go, no, I was just gonna, you made me think of something. Um, because then, you know, at the same time you have families coming together and everything, but because of this generational trauma and because all of this, like this bleeding onto everyone else, you know, we have, um, we have to come in and see that creepy uncle have to come in and see that cousin who's been bothering you since you were like five years old.
Speaker 14 00:42:48 Yeah. You know, because the, the abuse and everything is there and it exists for generations. So there's always somebody in that family that ends up hurting someone. So then you have to keep that secret, and then you have to be on your toes the whole time. Right, right. And at the same time, you know, then it's like, you know, that you're like, you're gonna go visit your friend who has their own reason why they're on their toes that day mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So it just becomes like this huge tense day for everybody and, and still continue to try and, you know, do the Thanksgiving thing, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative> football and all of that stuff. And, you know, um, it's just, it's always like a very struggling time. You know, you kind of feel guilty if you, you know, have a, have your big meal mm-hmm.
Speaker 14 00:43:33 <affirmative>. Yeah. So I don't know. And then, and then you feel like a bad American if you don't have a meal <laugh>. Right. You know, and then half of us are kind of, kind of Usha and you can't go, can't go Black Friday shopping either because half of us are in poverty. Right. You know, so, I mean, it's, it's tough. And then, you know, then you can't go visit your relatives who, you know, can go really big shopping because then you have to remind your kid Yeah. That he doesn't get everything mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, it's tough. Like, and I really, I I just, it's confusing. Yeah. Confusing, you know, and you just try to like, help your kids navigate, you know, that's, that's not our way. There's a lot of like times where we're talking to our children about this is not our way, this is not our way.
Speaker 14 00:44:13 We're telling our kids that constantly, you know, here, like we were talking about assimilation, you know, that happened to us recently. You know, we came from the reservation and came to Minneapolis. That was assimilation too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And like, our kids are like going into a difficult, they're, they're, they're try, uh, starting to go difficult paths, you know, and I'm constantly telling my kids like, this is not our way, this is not our way. This is our way. You know, and they're, they're, they gravitate to what they're, what what they see, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> what they're, what they're doing, you know? So like, when you're in the city, like there's not too much spiritual things that are going on. And like, that goes back to that trust and that ancestral trauma of like, uh, uh, being, you know, molested when you're a kid or, you know, maybe mom or dad was having that situation like in boarding school too, you know, and it just trickles down.
Speaker 14 00:45:06 So like, it, it's, this is a very confusing, uh, hard time for our people and we're still gonna fill it like a couple days later. You know, this is a long time to get over this one day. Yeah. One day, you know, and then we gotta, you know, brace for Christmas. Yeah. Because Christmas is like a whole other thing that just can't get away. Rolls right into it. Yeah. We can't get away from it no matter where you go. And then our, you know, then you have the traumatized parents who, um, don't know how to celebrate the holidays because they were left behind in the boarding schools. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they were left behind in the orphanages when, you know, the holidays were happening or, and then that's when the abuse happened. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, or they're already conditioned to think it revolves around alcohol because these priests and teachers and everybody were drinking on the holidays because that's what Catholic people do.
Speaker 8 00:45:55 Yeah. Yeah. And like, um, that was real when you said like, you can't even escape like the Christmas stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 14 00:46:01 You
Speaker 8 00:46:02 Can't. I remember you can't. Um, telling my dad, cuz I remember at one point in my teens, I was like, I don't celebrate Christmas. My dad's like, you do celebrate Christmas. And I'm like, no, I don't. Like, I don't do anything. No one gets any. And he's like, if you try to go to to the store on Christmas, the stores close. Merry Christmas. You're celebrating Christmas. I'm like, oh Lord. I was like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. With that, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 8 00:47:24 All right. We are back here on Views from the ground. Views from the Damn Ground. So we are here with, um, native Lives Matter, um, and we are just, um, having some conversations, so mm-hmm.
Speaker 14 00:47:37 <affirmative>. Yeah. And like we were just talking about, you know, uh, Christmas now you get into Christmas, well, there's 38 people that were hugged down in Mankato the day after. You know, those are our ancestors, you know, and so it's just a very long period of constant mourn and like their ride's gonna be coming through. And I feel like even non-natives should get out there and support. Like, just for, you know, your own knowledge. You know, you guys live here too mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it'd be nice for people to come and welcome them. They do it every single year, ride from lower Bureau, then they stop in Crow Creek where I'm from. Then they just continue to ride all the way to Mankato on horses and blizzards and storms and, you know, they're commemorating Yep. Commemorating our people, re chasing steps of our people day after Christmas. So that's
Speaker 9 00:48:46 What, what are some of the ways you talked a little bit about, I mean, that's what, uh, one way to help support and uplift mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, day after Christmas, um, and with Thanksgiving and other holidays and stuff. What are ways that you try to uplift your own families and, and, and, you know, there are all these things you said it's a very hard time. What are some ways, I mean, you said that like you tell your kids this is not our way, even if like you are participating in it mm-hmm. <affirmative>. What are some of like the traditions that you guys do to like, feel good about who you are during these, uh, hard times?
Speaker 14 00:49:20 See, I think that what, that might differentiate the way that Dakota people think mm-hmm. <affirmative> versus being an American mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, because to, to counteract not having these holidays, I gotta love my kids extra every single day of the year. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he doesn't get all the president, you know, all, all the presents and stuff at Christmas. He gets whatever he wants the rest of the year. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, because, you know, cause we're not, we're not about it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like, you know, I mean, consumerism literally controls all of our lives, all of our lives. So once this, this Black Friday starts and then onto Christmas, and then you get New Year's specials and then all of the, you know, the mm-hmm. <affirmative> president's sales, and then it just keeps going, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But like in my family, you know, I tell my son like, I give you this much because we are not gonna do all this other stuff.
Speaker 14 00:50:04 You should feel valued. You should feel appreciated every single day. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, we have to stay thankful every day. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and you know, and, and I think it's, it's a skewed on our part because, um, the people who are the most grateful are the most, like, uh, the real leaders in our community end up being, um, struggling at home with, uh, imposter syndrome because we're that, you know, that we're so far humbled. It, it's, it's a fault <laugh> mm-hmm. <affirmative> because we can't, you know, comfortably, um, pep pep ourselves up like that because of the trauma, because of the things that we carry. Yeah. You know, in, in the situations that have. Um, and, and it's not even under our own circumstance. It's like literally there's things that you could, you could sit there and be, you know, hypervigilant your entire existence as an Indian and something will still screw you over.
Speaker 14 00:50:48 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so it's exhausting. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but it's, it's an all day thing. All day, every day, all year. His whole life. I hope my kids feel so, feel that way. Yeah. Um, same thing every day. Every day. You know, thankful. Show your kids that, you know, they're loved every day. You know, some of us think like, oh, well we continue to do it for the kids. Well, like, I think that, you know, later on in life, when our kids get older and have their own, you know, they'll be like, geez, my mama's. Right. So hopefully, you know, in that type of way, you know, and teach 'em to, you know, think about that type of thing. Make sure that, you know, they know where they're from. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and their bloodline and you know where their ancestors are from. You know, first, first.
Speaker 14 00:51:36 And then tell them, you know, like, this, this is just, you know, Ima for me, I tell my kids all the time, like, this is imaginary. Like, yeah. It's like going on and stuff, but you gotta realize, like we were here mm-hmm. <affirmative> doing our own thing before all of this colonization came. Yeah. And it's, it's really, it's a, it's a struggle. It's a struggle to try and teach your kids, because like I said, it's everywhere. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like they're going to school on the bus and they're seeing, you know, downtown decorated like crazy, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then they come home and they're like, what's going on? Like where, where the lights say, what's the Christmas lights, <laugh>, those Christmas lights. It's like, oh gosh. Yeah. Yeah. It is. So, you know, they know, they know. Our kids know, you know. And then, you know, even for them, I bet you it's harder.
Speaker 14 00:52:29 I bet you it's a harder struggle for our kids too. It has to be. You know, I have a three year old who's never celebrated a birthday. He's never, um, seen Christmas. He's never done all this stuff cuz it's been a pandemic. So he's just been home. He don't have any idea about any of it. He's not even American. No, I'm just kidding. <laugh>. But you know, my older boy, he wanted a Christmas tree. Um, but he was like, we could do like a two foot one or whatever. I'm like, but it's gonna be black with like silver stuff and we're not, we're not gonna do all of the stockings or any of that stuff. So he just wanted like, a little like symbol that it was the holiday, but he was like, then it come down to it, it's like, whoa, where are we gonna put it?
Speaker 14 00:53:02 You know? So like, that was the end of the conversation. So even, you know, even our older kids who he's, he's, you know, he was on the line at Standing Rock, we were hanging out with mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, um, Clyde Bellco was, was my amster buddy. She's got her own stories too. But, you know, um, we, you know, my, my kid has seen the revolution of our people in the last however long and it's, um, it's been really enlightening, but he gets it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> is it, you know, it's a little hard. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> because, you know, he even was like trying to save up for Christmas and I'm like, for what? <laugh> <laugh>, you know, I just kind of shot him down, but then we went shopping. Mm-hmm. So it was fine. But yeah, it's, um, it's hard to get away from those, those things. Especially cuz then you start getting lonely, like she said, around the holidays and doing all the stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But, you know, there's, there's a good chunk of us I think, who are all like anti Christmas, but Christmas at the same time just for the sake, but mm-hmm.
Speaker 9 00:53:48 <affirmative>, it almost seems like there's like no right way to do it cuz you're like stuck between all of this guilt
Speaker 14 00:53:53 And then you
Speaker 9 00:53:53 Assimilation with the guilt, you
Speaker 14 00:53:54 Know, you get the guilt and it's just like, uh, like how, how, how, how can we do this in a non-guilty way? You know? Right. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, because like yeah. That con that conditioning is in us too. You know, our moms, our grandmas, we all did that, you know, that's a hard one. I had to break myself. I said I wasn't gonna celebrate Christmas unless I went to church that day. So it's like, the more that I told, the more that I found out I don't go to church for holidays, the easier it got to be. Be like, okay, whatever. <laugh> we're gonna eat though. <laugh>.
Speaker 8 00:54:27 Well, I just want to thank y'all for coming in. Um, and you know, just talking about y'all lives and the work that y'all do mm-hmm. <affirmative> and we just really appreciate it. Um, and the solidarity that you show mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, by showing up to a lot of BLM stuff. So for our last question, I just want to talk about why you think it's so, um, crucial to, for the solidarity with the, with the, you know, black Lives Matter and against police brutality and other stuff. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 14 00:54:58 <affirmative>. Yeah. Like you have to make connections. Like you have to, there's other families who have been going through this for years, years and years, you know, and then there's new families that come out like just like a couple weeks ago. You know? Um, you have to bring people together to understand what your, what your path is gonna be in this fight. You know, a lot of our people don't even get like a court date. Like some don't even get the names of the officers who murdered their loved one, you know, and then other people are getting multimillion dollar lawsuits and, you know, that's, we have to bring people together to get educated, get educated about, you know, everyone's fight. It's important like I feel because I have a black brother, I have a black sister, I seen all the stuff that they went through and a little white towns we all lived in and that too.
Speaker 14 00:56:07 So, you know, I don't want my family to feel as though like I did nothing. Like I did nothing for humanity for my family, you know? Um, we've been connected to our other family in Pittsburgh since I've been born, you know, they're non-native, they're black. Um, to see that excitement of our people coming together like that, because, you know, we had non-native allies during, you know, the EDI occupation. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, some lost their lives. You know, it's very important to keep that solidarity going throughout the generations, you know? Um, I feel like the more we come together, like the bigger our voice will be, because there's been times when I've relied on non-native education to help native families, you know, and that's a big thing. And that's helped us so much because we're connected to other Black Lives Matter groups like in California, Florida, you know, all over the country. So like, we're trying to get a voice for our people in on these platforms, which I believe, you know, our people need a seat. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, no matter what.
Speaker 8 00:57:36 Well, I just want, again, want to give you a big thank you for the work that you do here, and not just in the Twin Cities, but you know, around the world. Um, because you are truly very connected and the keeping the fight for black and indigenous liberation at the forefront, which I
Speaker 14 00:57:55 Think is Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 00:57:56 Always
Speaker 14 00:57:56 Important. Yeah. And thank you guys for always, you know, thinking about us. You know, you guys always show up for us, so, you know, we gotta keep it going. We gotta keep it going. And, you know, and head to Sioux Falls. Yes. <laugh>. Every Friday, Jacob James family has a, a rally where he was murdered. And people need to go and see that family and help them. Like, they're doing it all on their own for real. They're doing it all on their own. Like, there's not even native big native activists. I don't consider myself like that, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, there's bigger names than me, and they should be coming out for their people. They really should. Like, if you can be on front lines of cold winter, all of this, you should be able to be on the front line when your people are murdered on their own homelands point blank period.
Speaker 14 00:58:48 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like, we need our people to come out just as much. You know, you really quick, I wanted to, um, just say really fast is that we, we need to build coalitions with everyone because they don't want us to. That's literally like, just the basis of the whole entire thing. America doesn't want us to come together. White folks don't want us to come together. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, people who are upholding white supremacy, they're, they don't want us to come together, which, you know, like I said before, we're in a civic civil war right now. We gotta let them worry about each other and in the meantime, let's get together and start planning.
Speaker 8 00:59:20 Yes. With that being said, this is DJ your favorite agender host. Um, and we are out.
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